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GLM-5.3: The Coder That Became a Security Guard

GLM-5.3:那个成为安全卫士的程序员
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Mike

Welcome back to "Learn English with Podcasts"! Sarah, quick question. What if your email program had a hidden bug, and a stranger could read all your messages? Would you want to know?欢迎回到"Learn English with Podcasts"!Sarah,快问快答。如果你的邮件软件里藏着一个漏洞,陌生人能读到你所有的邮件,你想知道吗?

Sarah

Yes, of course! But who could even find something like that? It is hidden deep inside the code.当然想啊!但这种事谁能发现呢?它藏在代码深处。

Mike

That is exactly today's story. A Chinese AI company called Zhipu AI released a new model, GLM-5.3. It is an AI that writes code. And surprise! It is also very good at finding hidden bugs.这正是今天的故事。一家叫智谱AI的中国公司发布了新模型GLM-5.3。它是一个会写代码的AI。然后,惊喜来了!它还特别擅长发现隐藏的漏洞。

Sarah

Wait, writing code AND finding bugs? That sounds like two different jobs. How does one model do both?等等,既会写代码又会找漏洞?这听起来是两份不同的工作。一个模型怎么能同时干两件事?

Mike

Great question. First, the coding part. GLM-5.3 uses the same base model as its older brother, GLM-5.2. But the company trained it much, much more. They call this post-training scaling.好问题。先说编程部分。GLM-5.3和它的老大哥GLM-5.2用的是同一个基座模型。但公司对它做了更多、更多的训练。他们管这叫后训练Scaling。

Sarah

Post-training scaling? Is that like extra classes after school? The model studies harder, so it gets smarter?后训练Scaling?这就像放学后补课一样?模型更努力学习,所以就变聪明了?

Mike

Exactly! And the result is big. On a test called Terminal-Bench, GLM-5.3 jumped from 4.6 points to 28.3 points. That is about six times better. The company says it is now the strongest open-source model for coding.没错!而且效果很大。在叫Terminal-Bench的测试里,GLM-5.3从4.6分涨到了28.3分。大约提高了六倍。公司说它现在是编程最强的开源模型。

Sarah

Six times better! And "open-source" means the model is free for everyone to use, right? That is a big deal.六倍!而且"开源"就是人人都可以免费使用这个模型,对吧?这很了不起。

Mike

Yes. The full model will be open in about two weeks. And here is another nice detail. When GLM-5.3 finishes a task, it uses about 50,000 tokens. A top closed model uses about 120,000. So it thinks less and works smarter.对。完整模型大约两周后开源。还有一个细节很有意思。GLM-5.3完成一个任务大约用5万个tokens。而一个顶级闭源模型要用12万个。也就是说它想得更少,干得更聪明。

Sarah

Less thinking, better results. I wish my tax reports worked like that. Okay, now the part I really want to hear about. How did coding skills become security skills?想得少,效果好。真希望我的报税表也能这样。好了,现在说我最想听的部分。编程能力是怎么变成安全能力的?

Mike

Here is the idea. Security work is really just coding with very strict rules. So when GLM-5.3 got better at long, careful tasks, something new appeared. It could find real security holes.道理是这样的。安全工作其实就是规则非常严格的编程。所以当GLM-5.3更擅长长而细致的任务时,新的能力就出现了。它能发现真正的安全漏洞。

Sarah

It just appeared? Like a surprise gift in a box of cereal? That is amazing. So how good is it?就这么自己出现了?就像麦片盒里蹦出来的惊喜礼物?太神奇了。那它有多厉害?

Mike

On a test called CyberGym, it scored 84.5 percent. That is better than GLM-5.2's 77.2. It is even a little higher than Mythos 5, a very famous closed model, which got 83.8.在叫CyberGym的测试里,它得了84.5分。比GLM-5.2的77.2分高,甚至比Mythos 5——一个很有名的闭源模型——的83.8分还略高一点。

Sarah

Wow, higher than Mythos 5? Then can it also write real attacks, like a hacker?哇,比Mythos 5还高?那它也能像黑客一样写真正的攻击代码吗?

Mike

Not yet, and this is the honest part. On ExploitBench, a harder test, it got 54.4 percent. Much better than GLM-5.2's 24.4, but still below Mythos 5's 78. So right now, it is a great finder, but not yet a great attacker.还不行,这部分很诚实。在更难的ExploitBench测试里,它得了54.4分。比GLM-5.2的24.4分高多了,但还是低于Mythos 5的78分。所以目前它是优秀的"发现者",还不是优秀的"攻击者"。

Sarah

Hmm, that sounds... safe? A strong shield, but not a strong sword. Maybe that is actually good news.嗯,这听起来……挺安全的?很强的盾,但不是很强的剑。也许这反而是好消息。

Mike

That is exactly the point. With partner security teams, GLM-5.3 helped find 2,436 hidden bugs. Some were hiding for decades. Listen to this one. There is a rule in DNS, the system that finds websites for you, written back in 1983.这正是重点。在合作安全团队的协助下,GLM-5.3帮助发现了2436个隐藏漏洞。有些藏了几十年。听这个。DNS——帮你找到网站的系统——里有一条规则,写于1983年。

Sarah

1983? That is before I was born. And nobody found the problem for over forty years?1983年?那会儿我还没出生呢。四十多年都没人发现问题?

Mike

Right. One small weakness could make a server work almost 80,000 times harder than normal. Experts think it may affect more than nine out of ten DNS systems in the world.没错。一个小弱点就能让服务器多干近8万倍的活。专家认为这可能影响全球九成以上的DNS系统。

Sarah

Over ninety percent of the world's websites, just because of one old rule? That is both scary and incredible.全球九成以上的网站,就因为一条老规则?这既吓人又不可思议。

Mike

And there are more stories. GLM-5.3 helped find serious bugs in Microsoft's email and office systems. Microsoft officially thanked the team. It also helped find a bug that could control more than a thousand robots at once.还有更多故事。GLM-5.3帮助发现了微软邮件和办公系统里的严重漏洞。微软官方致谢了研究团队。它还帮助发现了一个能同时控制上千台机器人的漏洞。

Sarah

A thousand robots at once? Like a robot army? Now I am really glad they found that one first.同时控制上千台机器人?像机器人军团?现在我真的很庆幸他们先发现了这个。

Mike

There is even a detective story. A bad AI agent named Neo sent almost 19,000 fake emails to attack accounting companies in one country. GLM-5.3 helped experts follow the clues and find the whole attack chain.还有个侦探故事。一个叫Neo的恶意AI智能体向某个国家的会计公司发送了近19000封钓鱼邮件。GLM-5.3帮助专家们顺着线索,还原了整条攻击链。

Sarah

So this model catches bad AI agents too? It is like a security guard for the internet. Wait... that gives me an idea for our title.所以这个模型还能抓坏AI智能体?它就像互联网的保安。等等……这让我想到一个适合我们标题的点子。

Mike

Ha! Actually, Zhipu says the same thing. A model can attack or defend. It all depends on whose hands it is in. That is why they will open-source GLM-5.3, and start a plan called "Open Shield".哈!其实智谱说的就是这个意思。一个模型可以攻击,也可以防御。全看它落在谁的手里。所以他们要把GLM-5.3开源,并启动一个叫"开源的盾"的计划。

Sarah

"Open Shield." Let me guess. They will help open-source projects find bugs for free, so everyone gets protection?"开源的盾。"让我猜猜。他们会免费帮开源项目找漏洞,让所有人都能得到保护?

Mike

Exactly. Free security checks for open-source projects, free model access for defenders, and a code review tool in their product ZCode. Their words: when the strongest sword is locked in a few hands, the best shield must belong to everyone.完全正确。给开源项目免费安全审计,给防守方免费模型额度,还在他们的产品ZCode里提供代码审计功能。他们的话是:当最强的矛被锁在少数人手里,最好的盾必须属于所有人。

Sarah

That is a beautiful idea. The best shield belongs to everyone. Okay, what did we learn today? GLM-5.3 got smarter from extra training, and that training woke up a surprise skill: finding hidden bugs.这个想法真好。最好的盾属于所有人。好,那我们今天学到了什么?GLM-5.3靠额外的训练变得更聪明,而训练还唤醒了一个意外技能:发现隐藏漏洞。

Mike

And the real aha moment? The same model that writes code can also protect the world. Whether it is a sword or a shield depends on us.而真正的点睛时刻是什么?同一个写代码的模型,也能保护世界。它是矛还是盾,取决于我们。

Sarah

Let us be the shield side. Thank you for listening to "Learn English with Podcasts". See you next time!让我们站在盾这一边。感谢收听"Learn English with Podcasts"。下次见!

Mike

And if you find a bug in your morning coffee, please report it to the barista. Bye!如果你在早晨的咖啡里发现了一个bug(漏洞),请记得向咖啡师报告。再见!

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